Comments on: A field guide to privilege in marine science: some reasons why we lack diversity https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/ All the news on the Earth's largest environment. Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:53:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://csrtech.com By: The Why and How of STEM | MiddleWeb https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5835 Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:53:53 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5835 […] some reasons why we lack diversity,”  PhD candidate and science educator Miriam Goldstein notes class barriers to science education and adds that “by driving people away from science, we are missing out on so much talent and so […]

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By: Searching for Opportunities in Ecology & Environmental Science for Recent Grads | i'm a chordata! urochordata! https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5834 Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:02:41 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5834 […] be honest. For me, this was easy. I was lucky enough to have had experiences (and more to be honest) that channeled me into a top-notch research lab as an undergrad, which opened up […]

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By: Shawnee https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5833 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:26:17 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5833 I wish this article had been written in 2007 when I first entered College as a bright eyed lower middle class student. I was not born to privilege by any means.I managed to snag some college credit in high school which put me 15 credits ahead of the game, or so I had thought. I struggled financial since my grandfather passed away and my grandmother was left disabled and taking care of me. But, I managed to moved from WV to SC with less than a couple hundred dollars in my pocket ready to pursue a future in Marine Science. I struggled my entire college career balancing any where from 1-3 jobs at a time on top of a full course load. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to take most REU opportunities due to financial reason which put me behind until my junior year where i managed to snag an opportunity to work on paid research at my university with two professors. Which I am very fortunate to have had the privilege to be able to work with both the microbiologist and molecular biologist whom have helped shape my interest in the the application of microbiology, molecular, and genetics in understanding ecological relationships in the marine environment. However, I can’t help to think of all the opportunities that I could have had if I came from a more privilege family-SAT tutors?, Ivy League?, More Summer REU instead of two retail jobs and just getting by?
Would Privilege have helped stack the cards in my favor? Would I have had higher grades if I didn’t have to support myself and pay for my education? Would I have gotten into a Graduate program straight out of college? Would I still be here today almost a year after graduating still fighting to get my GRE score up and a paper published just so that maybe just maybe a professor and university would give me a fighting chance to become the future Dr. Lechliter.

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By: Announcing the Winners of the Science Seeker Awards! | ScienceSeeker Blog https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5831 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 03:31:59 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5831 […] A field guide to privilege in marine science: some reasons why we lack diversity by Miriam Goldstein Playing in Tide Pools | Scientist in vivo by Christie Wilcox A Dream Deferred: […]

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By: Abby https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5830 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:02:11 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5830 Amazing post. As a definite recipient of a leg up due to class privilege (some monetary and some about my parents making choices and sacrifices so that we could get the best education possible), this is something I think about a fair amount — especially after coming from The College of the Super-Privileged to a large, diverse state school.

One thing I often think about regarding marine biology and racial diversity in particular is the gap in swimming ability in the US. From an article in the WSJ: “…70% of African-American children and 58% of Hispanic children have little or no swimming ability, compared with 40% of Caucasian children.” (article here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704717004575268912714114950.html)

I don’t care to get into the reasons for this, as I don’t know enough about it to make an argument, and there is certainly a class dimension to this problem as well. But no matter the cause, this is possibly another case of students not having all of the necessary information; not knowing that ‘marine biology’ doesn’t have to mean ‘SCUBA and dolphins.’

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By: Blobologist-approved reads: Privilege, pigeons, polyester, paleontology & pythons | The Blobologist https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5829 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:55:38 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5829 […] A field guide to privilege in marine science: some reasons why we lack diversity by Miriam Goldstein at Deep Sea News […]

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By: Thiago Silva https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5828 Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:40:00 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5828 One more factor to add may be, for grad school and afterwards, being an international student in a north-american (or at least Canadian) university. When I moved from Brazil to Canada to start my PhD, I was impressed by how much your “track-record” in getting fellowships and awards also mattered.

When I tried to jump into the bandwagon, I quickly found out that, as a foreigner, I wasn’t eligible for 99.9% of the awards. It came to a point where I’d scan an award announcement for “Canadian citizen/permanent resident” even before I checked for applicability to my research field. And then, on my last year, I started job hunting in academia and keep running on the “proven track record of securing grants and awards” on the ad descriptions. Well…

Relating to Jessica’s comment about salary disparity, I was even more surprised by how many of these awards also had the prerequisite of…already holding another award! This is completely opposite from the Brazilian system, were virtually all research assistant/grad/postdoc fellowships forbid you to hold any other award concurrently. Year after year, the same names would pop-up as new award recipients on the dept. email list, while other students would work at retail and plant trees to be able to afford grad school, and keep doing their equally interesting research.

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By: Jylene Livengood https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5827 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:53:13 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5827 I am a white, middle class daughter of college educated parents, one with a Ph.D. who was in science, and one who was in medical research as a tech. Even so I encountered a lot of these problems and I can’t even imagine what a kid with more disadvantages would need to overcome the barriers.

When I was in grade school it was still believed that teaching girls math would make them unmarriageable. Yep, true fact. While most teachers no longer take that approach, we still have the cultural hangover. Boys are discouraged because their obstreperousness names them less appealing to an overloaded school system where things like recess have been undermined. Girls are discouraged because there’s a HUGE amount of social pressure to be nice and appealing and that includes not out-competing the boys, or even other girls.

When I was in college I did so-so in pre-med elimination courses – I wasn’t happy but I was told it was good enough to justify continuing in sciences. On the other hand, I also knew that I had to maintain a B average or higher to keep my financial aid and while I might have been a successful science student, the risk of dropping grades eliminating my funding was too high. SO I went to liberal arts where I COULD be more sure of high high grades. This amounts to science being elite and elitist (in the negative sense) and punishes students who learn it but don’t grade well enough to get consistent high marks. The risk of being forced out of college by this is so high that it makes sense that it selects against exactly the kids we need in sciences.

Our education system now treats middle class and working class as an ATM for banks and investors and leverages those students with HUGE debt. Science is the source of most of the innovations that fuel our markets, but the people who profit are bankers and marketers, not ordinary researchers. That means that science is a high cost/low return education. Any kid smart enough to get a science degree is also smart enough to recognize the barriers of risk (losing college and grad funding), poor return (low pay for sciences), and low respect (we reward the people who sell the fruits of research but underpay the PhD and MS holders who do the research, and claim they should be satisfied with paltry funding).

The Koreans and Chinese are lauded for lots of math and science majors, and our pundits blather on about how to get American kids to learn math and science. I think it’s much simpler than culture. I think our kids are smart enough to realize that while we talk the talk, we refuse to walk the walk. We want our engineers but want to pay them Walmart wages. Guess what. Those kids are smart enough NOT to work hard and assume huge debts in order to be treated like fast food clerks by our market. There are other factors but it seems very likely that the most daunting problems in our education and in our science skills are market structural. If we start funding sciences like we did in the fifties and sixties so that researchers made as much as most bankers, and if we fund our colleges so that students aren’t always at risk of losing funding if they actually learn new and unfamiliar things, then odds are we’ll see a LOT more scientists and engineers as a result.

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By: ScienceTim https://deepseanews.com/2013/01/a-field-guide-to-privilege-in-marine-science-some-reasons-why-we-lack-diversity/#comment-5826 Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:09:00 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=19133#comment-5826 This is a topic that has been on my mind a lot. We had very little money when I was growing up, but a lot of that is because my father was in graduate school in biophysics, the first person in our family to complete college, much less enter grad school. What I had, that my neighbors lacked, was the idea that science is a normal pursuit and that I had a path to take me into the future. I worried about money for tuition, and so I was amazed when scholarships came along — mostly need-based, but some was overtly academic. I never would have known about financial aid at the level that I needed it if I had not just bulled ahead with the notion that everything would work out, somehow. It’s easy to see how my background gave me that attitude, and easy to see how lots of people, deprived of my background and my attitude, never get far enough to find out what they might be able to do.

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