Comments on: Tipping Points, For-Profit Scientific Publishing, and Closed Science https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/ All the news on the Earth's largest environment. Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:20:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://csrtech.com By: Gabriela Silvoni https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-73606 Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:20:22 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-73606 Dear Craig McClain, I´m a librarian from National Research Institute in Fisheries in Argentina, I take note of your comments by IAMSLIC our Library Assoc. in Mar.Sci., is very interesting your point of view. Since Libraries we start working in that since 2000 supporting Plos, working in open acces repositories and so one… I think the are two important points, first is related with : “6. Change evaluation policies for faculty that reward open science models and decrease value on publishing in and with for-profit journals and publishing houses.” When start to change the ‘evaluation policies’ many things will change. The second and important one is the ‘sustainability’ of open acces sources/resources, OA is not ‘free’, some one has to pay people, servers, technology, etc…and ensure access to the future. This movement start around 20 years, and is not easy but not impossible move to a real change (maybe an hybrid profit-not profit way to communicate since in a ‘razonable cost’), I agree with you if “all of us trying to make small decisions in the right direction, working toward this goal, we will move the field in total to the right place”
THANKS so much for your initiative, congrats for your work in Marine Science!!

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By: Sawar Khan https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-73568 Mon, 17 Dec 2018 06:40:54 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-73568 100% true, Well done! a bold , nice, and wise step.

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By: Andrew Eichmann https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-73316 Mon, 03 Dec 2018 21:16:49 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-73316 Dover also has a lot of golden oldies, particularly in more mathematical subjects, that go for less than $20. I had them assigned in undergrad and grad programs.

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By: Mike Taylor https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-73143 Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:28:47 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-73143 So, so much agreement on all of this! Thank you for posting, and for taking such a bold step as to straight-up cancel ALL subscriptions. This is much-needed leadership.

On your point 5, “Do not serve as editor, reviewer, or author of a paper in a for-profit journal.”: I often get pushback from colleagues on this one, as some feel that by refusing to review others’ papers in non-open journals, I am harming the authors. I take this criticism seriously enough that I wrote a post explaining in detail why I think it’s nevertheness the right thing. You might find it interesting or useful: https://svpow.com/2011/10/17/collateral-damage-of-the-non-open-reviewing-boycott/

You do conflate open=non-profit and non-open=for-profit, as your colleague noted. Specifically, your point 5 is aimed at for-profit publishers when I think it should be aimed at non-open publishers (and I suspect that’s what you meant?) Note for example that PeerJ is a for-profit operation — but like you, I use and recommend it, because it’s fully open and provides a good service at a good price. That it’s also (potentially) enriching individuals is not a major negative in my view.

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By: Federico Leva https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-73075 Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:01:39 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-73075 Well done! Speaking of good deals for books, as a student I often bump into good deals on AbeBooks for titles required by my course, and I donate books to my library. The Internet Archive is preparing to do this at scale, by acquiring and digitising millions of books (including textbooks) which can then be borrowed online by one user at a time:
https://blog.archive.org/2018/03/14/lets-build-a-great-digital-library-together-starting-with-a-wishlist/

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By: David Bigwood https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-72893 Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:43:56 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-72893 You don’t mention open-access textbooks. Organizations like Openstax at Rice University; “OpenStax offers peer-reviewed OER textbooks that meet scope and sequence requirements for most college courses. Low-cost print editions are also available.” https://openstax.org/subjects There is also MIT Online Textbooks http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/online-textbooks/ These and other are offering an alternative to the probative cost many text books.

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By: Jason Robertshaw https://deepseanews.com/2018/11/tipping-points-for-profit-scientific-publishing-and-closed-science/#comment-72837 Mon, 19 Nov 2018 01:10:21 +0000 https://www.deepseanews.com/?p=58641#comment-72837 See also, Open Education Resources
https://www.oercommons.org

Open educational resources (OER) are teaching, learning, and research resources that reside in the public domain or have been released under an intellectual property license that permits their free use and re-purposing by others. OER include full courses, course materials, modules, textbooks, streaming videos, tests, software, and any other tools, materials, or techniques used to support access to knowledge.

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